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(03-05-2022, 12:27 PM)Treebeard Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 12:02 PM)Verity Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 11:57 AM)Treebeard Wrote: @Verity

Many present-day Jews had Khazarian ancestry. Their facial features are Turkic.

Many present-day European "gentiles" are actually descended from Israelites, unbeknownst to them.

Not that it matters, really.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=khazaria+phallic+god&t=ffsb&ia=web
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/10/07...ia-busted/
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=texe+marrs+jewish+dna+&t=ffsb&ia=web
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=shlomo+sand+jewish+khazars&t=ffsb&ia=web
https://www.quora.com/Would-the-original...es?share=1

The Khazars as Ashkenazi Jews is a debunked anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. I’ve seen you post anti-Semitic tripe many times so you are not fooling me. And Veterans Today which you are citing for at least a second time today is a ridiculous and also anti-Semitic site.

Why is it "anti-Semitic" to disagree with certain "Israeli" actions, or cite accurate history, and the memberships of global realities?
Veterans Today is just one website of thousands, and books that takes the other side of your claims. Some of which were written by prominent "Jewish" scholars, scientists and the Jewish Encyclopedia itself. Moreover, I did not make a carte-blanche statement regarding the racial makeup of today's Jewry, but you did. Additionally, I said that it doesn't really matter. Perhaps it is the Jewish Zionist claims upon their current lands that it matters to most of all, right? Now, how about admitting those things I just said are all true, then you can consider the other part of the Jewish racial identity - that in the time of Herod's Second Temple, most of the Jewish leadership and Sanhedrin were not even Israelites.

Don’t be disingenuous. You boldly asserted the racist, anti-Semitic Khazar theory and I called both you and the OP on it. You were not speaking of any national Israeli actions nor “accurate history.” To say nothing of Zionism which is another topic altogether.

The piece I posted is excellent and I hope many harboring misconceptions about Jews and their racial makeup will read it.

You’re not going to troll me on this topic, and this will be my last reply to you here.
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That's fine if it's your last reply to me on this, but I did not say all Jews or even all Ashkenazi Jews had Khazarian ancestors. 
However, I do not agree that it can be maintained some number Ashkenazis are not Turkic/Khazarian.

"These Jews adopted the name Ashkenaz, and the DNA of Ashkenazic Jews can be traced to “Ancient Ashkenaz” – an intersection of trade routes in eastern Turkey.
We now know that at the time these Jews adopted the name Ashkenaz, they also acquired unique Asian mutations on their Y chromosome. This is where another important group of people in our story come into play – and they are called the Gok-Turks."

Thanks to their organisational and military skills, the Ashina united many tribes in this area – and a new empire called the “Khazar Khaganate” was born. Offering freedom of worship and taxing trade, these people quickly rose to power.
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[url=https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3928]The Asian group of these DNA mutations
, found in Ashkenazic Jews, likely originated from the Ashina elite and other Khazar clans, who converted from Shamanism to Judaism.

Ashkenazic Jews’ mysterious origins unravelled by scientists thanks to ancient DNA
https://theconversation.com/ashkenazic-j...-dna-97962

Kagan - Khazarian.

[Image: 220px-Elena_Kagan_Official_SCOTUS_Portra...013%29.jpg]

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(03-05-2022, 12:45 PM)Verity Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 12:27 PM)Treebeard Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 12:02 PM)Verity Wrote:

Spoiler

The Khazars as Ashkenazi Jews is a debunked anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. I’ve seen you post anti-Semitic tripe many times so you are not fooling me. And Veterans Today which you are citing for at least a second time today is a ridiculous and also anti-Semitic site.




Spoiler

Why is it "anti-Semitic" to disagree with certain "Israeli" actions, or cite accurate history, and the memberships of global realities?

Veterans Today is just one website of thousands, and books that takes the other side of your claims. Some of which were written by prominent "Jewish" scholars, scientists and the Jewish Encyclopedia itself. Moreover, I did not make a carte-blanche statement regarding the racial makeup of today's Jewry, but you did. Additionally, I said that it doesn't really matter. Perhaps it is the Jewish Zionist claims upon their current lands that it matters to most of all, right? Now, how about admitting those things I just said are all true, then you can consider the other part of the Jewish racial identity - that in the time of Herod's Second Temple, most of the Jewish leadership and Sanhedrin were not even Israelites.


Don’t be disingenuous. You boldly asserted the racist, anti-Semitic Khazar theory and I called both you and the OP on it. You were not speaking of any national Israeli actions nor “accurate history.” To say nothing of Zionism which is another topic altogether.

The piece I posted is excellent and I hope many harboring misconceptions about Jews and their racial makeup will read it.

You’re not going to troll me on this topic, and this will be my last reply to you here.
It's unfortunate you chose to cancel the video when the Khazarian Mafia was mentioned. Clif goes on to explain very clearly why he is not anti-Semitic.

I speak as an ignorant observer with no strongly held opinion one way or the other. I absolutely am not anti-Semitic. I've perceived for a long time the Jewish people are pawns.

Anyway, I read the article you posted. I found it interesting. It seems to overlap in certain aspects the Khazarian history expounded in the VT article. I'm curious why you hold this person's historical interpretation in such high regard.
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(03-05-2022, 11:43 AM)crunchysuperman Wrote: When all this crap is finally over with, "soon", "imminent" and "buckle up" are terms I never want to hear again.
Yeah, click baitey, for sure. Worked on you though.  Wink
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(03-05-2022, 01:09 PM)Godless_Patriot Wrote:

Spoiler

(03-05-2022, 12:45 PM)Verity Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 12:27 PM)Treebeard Wrote: [spoiler]Why is it "anti-Semitic" to disagree with certain "Israeli" actions, or cite accurate history, and the memberships of global realities?

Veterans Today is just one website of thousands, and books that takes the other side of your claims. Some of which were written by prominent "Jewish" scholars, scientists and the Jewish Encyclopedia itself. Moreover, I did not make a carte-blanche statement regarding the racial makeup of today's Jewry, but you did. Additionally, I said that it doesn't really matter. Perhaps it is the Jewish Zionist claims upon their current lands that it matters to most of all, right? Now, how about admitting those things I just said are all true, then you can consider the other part of the Jewish racial identity - that in the time of Herod's Second Temple, most of the Jewish leadership and Sanhedrin were not even Israelites.


Don’t be disingenuous. You boldly asserted the racist, anti-Semitic Khazar theory and I called both you and the OP on it. You were not speaking of any national Israeli actions nor “accurate history.” To say nothing of Zionism which is another topic altogether.

The piece I posted is excellent and I hope many harboring misconceptions about Jews and their racial makeup will read it.

You’re not going to troll me on this topic, and this will be my last reply to you here.[/spoiler]
It's unfortunate you chose to cancel the video when the Khazarian Mafia was mentioned. Clif goes on to explain very clearly why he is not anti-Semitic.

I speak as an ignorant observer with no strongly held opinion one way or the other. I absolutely am not anti-Semitic. I've perceived for a long time the Jewish people are pawns.

Anyway, I read the article you posted. I found it interesting. It seems to overlap in certain aspects the Khazarian history expounded in the VT article. I'm curious why you hold this person's historical interpretation in such high regard.
This is not my first time hearing of this theory. It’s a virtual meme on sites like this unfortunately. Since I am already familiar with the subject and attendant issues (e.g. the genetic studies that have debunked it), I could readily perceive the veracity of the essay. Eta I am glad you found it useful.
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(03-05-2022, 11:58 AM)Godless_Patriot Wrote: I think this is the Veterans Today article Clif was referring to.

The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia
Secret History of Khazarian Mafia and its evil plan to hijack the whole world now revealed for first time.
By
 Preston James, Ph.D
 -

February 25, 2022



What ‘Q’ Would Never Tell You…The Shocking Truth Behind the Conspiracy Theories


Editor’s Note: The history of the Khazarians, specifically the Khazarian Mafia (KM), the World’s largest Organized Crime Syndicate that the Khazarian oligarchy morphed into by their deployment of Babylonian Money-Magick, has been nearly completely excised from the history books.

The present-day KM knows that it cannot operate or exist without abject secrecy, and therefore has spent a lot of money having its history excised from the history books in order to prevent citizens of the World from learning about its “Evil beyond imagination”, that empowers this World’s largest Organized Crime Cabal.

The authors of this article have done their best to resurrect this lost, secret history of the Khazarians and their large International Organized Crime Syndicate, best referred to as the Khazarian Mafia (KM), and make this history available to the World via the Internet, which is the new Gutenberg Press.

It has been exceedingly difficult to reconstruct this hidden secret history of the KM, so please excuse any minor inaccuracies or errors which are unintentional and are due to the difficulty in digging out the true history of Khazaria and its mafia. We have done the best we can to reconstruct it.

It was Mike Harris that connected the dots and made the actual discovery of the presence of the Khazarian Mafia’s secret history and blood oath to take revenge on Russia for helping Americans win the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, and their blood oath of revenge against America and Americans for winning these wars and sustaining the Union.

At the Syrian Conference on Combating Terrorism and Religious Extremism, December 1, 2014 — in his Keynote address, Veterans Today Senior Editor and Director Gordon Duff disclosed publicly for the first time ever that World Terrorism is actually due to a large International Organized Crime Syndicate associated with Israel. This disclosure sent shock waves at the Conference and almost instantly around the world, as almost every world leader received reports of Gordon Duff’s historical disclosure that same day, some within minutes.

And the shock waves from his historic speech in Damascus continue to reverberate around the world even to this very day. And now Gordon Duff has asked President Putin to release Russian Intel which will expose about 300 traitors in Congress for their serious serial felonies and statutory espionage on behalf of the Khazarian Mafia (KM) against America and many Middle East nations.

We now know that the Khazarian Mafia (KM) is waging a secret war against America and Americans by the use of False-flag Gladio-style terrorism, and via the illegal and Unconstitutional Federal Reserve System, the IRS, the FBI, FEMA, Homeland Security, and the TSA. We know for certain that the KM was responsible for deploying an inside-job, Gladio-style False-flag attack on America on 9-11-01, as well as the Murrah Building Bombing on April 19, 1995.

100-800 AD – an incredibly Evil Society Emerges in Khazaria:

[Image: khazaria.jpg]

I wish there were some way to know for certain if this was true or not true.  

I mean, it does make sense, and it does tie in to many otherwise "unexplained" situations.  

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eran_Elhaik

The accuracy and reliability of Elhaik's population genetic theory of the Khazars met with strong criticism from a number of other geneticists,[20][21] as well as from linguists who took exception to his use of Paul Wexler's theories of Yiddish.[22]

In particular the validity of the proxy population used in his first Khazar paper was criticized on methodological grounds.[23][24][25][26][27][28][29][30] Marcus Feldman, director of Stanford’s Morrison Institute for Population and Resource Studies, has said that Elhaik is "just wrong", with regard to the Khazar hypothesis where, in Feldman's view, he "appears to be applying the statistics in a way that gives him different results from what everybody else has obtained from essentially similar data".[19]
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The conspiracy predates Khazaria by over a millennia. It's roots are in the Babylonian Captivity where most of the Israelites that were captivated by Babylonian practices and customs never gave them up. For saying this, the prophets were murdered. Even before that, it was the Caananites and Edomites. Babylonian banking practices are Federal Reserve banking practices. Not a coincidence.

Following the division of Israel and the Assyrian captivity of the northern tribes, the southern kingdom of Judah adopted the pagan traditions of the heathen nation of ancient Babylon. These traditions, with their associated rituals which included human sacrifice, provoked God to judge the southern kingdom, which judgment the prophet Jeremiah forewarned the Jews for a period of forty years, to no avail.

The Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem in three stages, from 605 to 586 B.C., in which year the Temple of Solomon was demolished and the remaining Jews were carried into captivity. During the Babylonian captivity, the prophet Ezekiel continued to reprove Judah for its apostasy from the God of Israel and their love affair with Babylon...


https://christianobserver.net/secrets-of...cumentary/

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(03-05-2022, 01:54 PM)Aquarius Wrote:
(03-05-2022, 11:58 AM)Godless_Patriot Wrote:

Spoiler

I think this is the Veterans Today article Clif was referring to.

The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia
Secret History of Khazarian Mafia and its evil plan to hijack the whole world now revealed for first time.
By
 Preston James, Ph.D
 -

February 25, 2022



What ‘Q’ Would Never Tell You…The Shocking Truth Behind the Conspiracy Theories


Editor’s Note: The history of the Khazarians, specifically the Khazarian Mafia (KM), the World’s largest Organized Crime Syndicate that the Khazarian oligarchy morphed into by their deployment of Babylonian Money-Magick, has been nearly completely excised from the history books.

The present-day KM knows that it cannot operate or exist without abject secrecy, and therefore has spent a lot of money having its history excised from the history books in order to prevent citizens of the World from learning about its “Evil beyond imagination”, that empowers this World’s largest Organized Crime Cabal.

The authors of this article have done their best to resurrect this lost, secret history of the Khazarians and their large International Organized Crime Syndicate, best referred to as the Khazarian Mafia (KM), and make this history available to the World via the Internet, which is the new Gutenberg Press.

It has been exceedingly difficult to reconstruct this hidden secret history of the KM, so please excuse any minor inaccuracies or errors which are unintentional and are due to the difficulty in digging out the true history of Khazaria and its mafia. We have done the best we can to reconstruct it.

It was Mike Harris that connected the dots and made the actual discovery of the presence of the Khazarian Mafia’s secret history and blood oath to take revenge on Russia for helping Americans win the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, and their blood oath of revenge against America and Americans for winning these wars and sustaining the Union.

At the Syrian Conference on Combating Terrorism and Religious Extremism, December 1, 2014 — in his Keynote address, Veterans Today Senior Editor and Director Gordon Duff disclosed publicly for the first time ever that World Terrorism is actually due to a large International Organized Crime Syndicate associated with Israel. This disclosure sent shock waves at the Conference and almost instantly around the world, as almost every world leader received reports of Gordon Duff’s historical disclosure that same day, some within minutes.

And the shock waves from his historic speech in Damascus continue to reverberate around the world even to this very day. And now Gordon Duff has asked President Putin to release Russian Intel which will expose about 300 traitors in Congress for their serious serial felonies and statutory espionage on behalf of the Khazarian Mafia (KM) against America and many Middle East nations.

We now know that the Khazarian Mafia (KM) is waging a secret war against America and Americans by the use of False-flag Gladio-style terrorism, and via the illegal and Unconstitutional Federal Reserve System, the IRS, the FBI, FEMA, Homeland Security, and the TSA. We know for certain that the KM was responsible for deploying an inside-job, Gladio-style False-flag attack on America on 9-11-01, as well as the Murrah Building Bombing on April 19, 1995.

100-800 AD – an incredibly Evil Society Emerges in Khazaria:

[url=https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/02/25/the-hidden-history-of-the-incredibly-evil-khazarian-mafia/][/url]



Spoiler

[Image: khazaria.jpg]


I wish there were some way to know for certain if this was true or not true.  

I mean, it does make sense, and it does tie in to many otherwise "unexplained" situations.  

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@Aquarius i agree wholeheartedly. It's such a deep and complicated rabbit hole!

I have to say though, I've followed Clif High for a number of years, way back when he was just getting started with Half Past Human. He is a data guy. Not in the habit of making baseless claims. If he puts weight behind a particular dataset, he will have my attention.
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https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/khazars


https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/artic...79-chazars


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http://www.jevzajcg.me/enciklopedia/Ency...t-Lie).pdf
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